「数年後には世界最高GKになる！」アストン・ヴィラ現地サポが鈴木彩艶へのオナナ比較説に猛反論【海外の反応】

確かにもっとうまくやるべきだった。でも彼がすでに勝ち取ってくれた勝ち点の多さは、数回のミスなんて遥かに上回ってるよ。

He should have done better. But the amount of points he has already won us far outweighs a couple of mistakes.

チーム全体でマンUに25本もシュートを打たせてたんだぞ。うちの倍以上だ。
キーパーだけを責めるのは、他のフィールドプレイヤーを甘やかすことになる。

The team let MU have 25 shots on goal. More than twice what we had.
Only blaming the keeper is letting everyone else off

ここから学ぶはずだ。マルティネスはゲームのテンポを遅らせたり、駆け引きの天才だったからな。無駄に前線へ蹴り出したのはミスだったし、相手もGKを上げて露骨に圧力をかけてきてた。

He's going to learn from it. Martinez was the king of slowing the game down and gamesmanship. Punting the ball upfield unnecessarily was a mistake and then they actually sent their keeper up to manhandle him.

前半はかなり良いセーブを何回も見せてたしな。

He had several very good saves in the first half

マンUサポだけど……あいつは凄かったぞ。マジで厄介な存在だった。

Man united fan here....he was amazing lads,he was a pain in the ass to deal with.

もっと良く対応すべきだったのは確かだが、彼自身よりも守備陣や戦術の方に問題があったよ。

He should've done better, however the defence and the tactics let him down more than he did

他クラブサポ（Other 14）だけど。
マンUの2点目と最後のゴールは酷かったな。キーパーの責任なんて微塵もないよ。応援し続けてやれ、慣れてくればとんでもない選手になるはずだ。

※Other 14：ビッグ6以外のプレミアリーグ14クラブのこと

Fan from the "Other 14" here.
Second and last Man U goals were a disgrace. It was not your goalkeepers fault in the slightest, keep supporting him, he will be phenomenal once he finds his feet.

100%同意。ヴィラファンじゃないけど高く評価してるよ。今季最初の4分の1としては十分うまくやってる。シーズン終了頃にはもっと良くなってるし、2〜3年後にはヤバいレベルになるはず。
ラヤが辿った道と似たような状況だな。

100% agree. Not a Villa fan either, but I rate him a lot. He’s been doing things well in his first quarter of a season. End of the season he’ll look even better, and will be unreal in a couple seasons.
Similar situation to Raya coming his way

ユナイテッドサポだけど、うちの4点目はファウルだったと思う。ただ鈴木ももっと上手く処理すべきだった。
数年前に噂になって以来キャリアを追ってるが、本当に素晴らしいGKだしこれから成長する一方だよ。
クロス対応が得意になることはないかもしれないが（特に最高峰のエミと比べると）、短所を補って余りある強みがある。デ・ヘアやドンナルンマもクロス対応はク○だったし凡ミスもあったが、世界最高峰になれたんだ。

United fan here, our 4th goal was a foul though I do think Suzuki should've done better.
I've followed his career since we were linked with him a few years ago. Think he's a really, really good keeper, and he will only get better.
I don't think he'll ever be great at crosses (esp compared to Emi who was one of the very best at it), but his strengths far outweigh his weaknesses. De Gea and Donnuruma were both crap at crosses and had a howler in them, but still became one of world's best at one point.

あいつをオナナと比較してる奴らは黒人だからって理由だけで言ってるんだろ。じゃなきゃそんな結びつけ方するわけない。

They’re only comparing him to Onana because he’s black. They wouldn’t make that connection otherwise

正直勝つべきだったよ、相手GKにファウル受けてたし。相変わらずイカサマチームだな。今週末はうちのチームもやられそうだ。

You should’ve won tbf, he was being founded by their GK. Scam team always scamming. It’s going to happen to my team this weekend.

俺たちが耳聞こえないとでも思ってんのかよ！

DO YOU THINK WE ARE DEAF OR SOMETHING

ヴィラのユニフォームを着てたエミ・マルティネスの凡ミスなんて、みんなすぐ忘れるよな。どんな選手だってミスはする。ただキーパーのミスは失点に直結しやすいってだけだ。

People soon forget the howlers that Emi Martinez had in a Villa shirt. Every player makes mistakes. It just so happens when a keeper does, it often leads to a goal.

あいつをオナナと比較してる奴なんて一人も見かけてないし、もしいたとしたら理由はお察しだな。

I've not seen a single person compare him to Onana, and if they have, unfortunately I think we probably know why

ああ、ヴィラ色に染め上げる必要なんてない……

Yeah, there's no need to Villa-fy him....

フォレストファンだし、なんでここにいるのかも分からんが高評価押さざるを得ないな。

I'm a forest fan, not even sure why i'm here but this deserves an upvote.

『鈴木はオナナがユナイテッドで残した以上の貢献をすでにしてる』って言うけど、
オナナはユナイテッドでトロフィー2個獲ってるぞ。

"SUZUKI HAS ALREADY DONE MORE FOR US THAN ONANA EVER HAS FOR UNITED."
Onana won two trophies at United.

数年後には世界最高のキーパーの一人になってるように見えるけどな。

Looks like he'll be one of the best keepers in the world in a few years to me

マジでどこでオナナと比較されてんの見たんだよ？プレースタイルなんて共通点ほぼゼロじゃん。

Literally where have you seen anyone compare him to Onana? They have pretty much nothing in common in their playstyle

あいつをオナナと比較する気はないが、アヤックスやインテル時代のオナナがかなり優れていて当時絶賛されていたことをみんな忘れがちだな。多くのクラブが狙っていたし、ユナイテッドで自信を完全に打ち砕かれる何かがあったんだろ。ユナイテッドでのプレーは酷かったが、あの批判の強さと魔女狩り体質には同情するよ。
ユナイテッド退団後のキャリアは追ってないけど、他の選手みたいに調子を取り戻してても驚かないな。

I’m not comparing him to Onana, but people seem to forget that the Onana that played for Ajax and Inter was actually pretty good and was highly touted at the time. There were a few clubs interested in him, as with other players, it seems that something happened at Man U that completely destroyed his confidence and the pressure became too much. His United performances became poor, but I feel for him with that level of scrutiny and the witch-hunt mentality at that club.
I’ve not followed his career post United, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see an up turn in form like so many others.

ユナイテッドファンから『うちのキーパーになりそうな顔してるな』って言われたぞ。

United fans were saying to me he looks like he'd be one of their keepers.

鈴木が最高のキーパーになるって確信してるよ。まだトップレベルで学んでる最中の若手だってことを忘れるな。キーパーの全盛期は27〜35歳くらいなんだから全力で後押ししようぜ。今後10年以上うちでプレーしてくれることを願ってる。

I have no doubt whatsoever Suzuki is gonna be a fantastic keeper for us. Remember he's still a young lad who's learning his trade at the highest level. Keepers tend to be be at their best from 27-35 so let's get behind him and hopefully he'll be with us for the next 10 years +

俺は絶賛する声しか見かけてないぞ。すでにビッグクラブへの移籍の噂も出てるし、数回のミスくらいでそれは変わらん。どんなキーパーだって探せばもっと酷いミスの映像が出てくる。
今季最高の掘り出し物と評価されるのは当然だ。オナナと比較できる点があるとしたら肌の色くらいで、ピッチ上ではマンUのオナナってよりうちのアマドゥ・オナナに近いよ。

I have seen nothing but praise for him. I have already seen links to huge clubs. That doesn’t change because of a few mistakes. I can go through the clips and find mistakes worse for every keeper.
The guy is rightly considered one of the finds of the season. Only way i can compare him to Onana is skin tone as on the pitch he’s closer to our Onana than the one man united had

ユナイテッドサポから言わせてもらえば、オナナは悪夢だった。あいつはそこまで酷くないし絶対そうはならないよ。まだ若いから成長するさ。

As a united fan, Onana was a nightmare, he's nowhere near as bad and will probably never be and he's very young and he'll improve.

オナナは悪いキーパーじゃないぞ。今季は14試合で7回のクリーンシートを達成して11失点だ。リスペクトを欠いてるのはお前の方に見えるな。
ユナイテッドサポもオナナが嫌いだからってラメンスを絶賛してたが、今の惨状を見てみろ。
オナナは1試合平均1.42失点。
ラメンスは1.38失点だが、オナナがユナイテッドにいた時より30試合も少ない。
良い選手がユナイテッドに行くと台無しになるって説を唱えるくせに、なぜかゴールキーパーにはその理論を適用しないんだよな。
トラブゾンスポル加入後は1試合平均1.05失点まで下がってる。

Onana is not a bad goal keeper. This season he has kept 7 clean sheets and conceded 11 goals in 14 appearances. Seems you are the disrespectful one.
United fans were also raving about lammens because they hated onana but look at him now
Onana had a 1.42 goals conceded per appearance
Lammens has 1.38 but has played 30 games less than when onana was at United.
People can say good players are ruined when they go to United but they don’t apply that same theory to the goalkeepers for some
reason.
Since joining Trabzonspor his ratio has dropped to 1.05 goals conceded per appearance

ヴィラファンじゃないし大量放出して今季は苦戦すると思ってたから称賛したいよ！でも彼は素晴らしいし伸び代も凄まじい。少し時間をかければマルティネスを超えると思う。オナナに似てるなんて言うのは正気じゃない。

I’m not a villa fan and I thought this season would be bad for you guys with so many sales so big Kudos for that! But I think he’s great and has a massive ceiling. I Think he’ll be better than Martinez with a little bit of time. To say he’s anything like Onana is outrageous

本物のキーパーはミスから立ち直って成長するが、オナナみたいなタイプは縮こまって悪化する。時が経てば分かることだが、今回の件から成長してくれると期待してるよ。

A real keeper will recover from errors and improve, while Onana's shrink and get worse. Time will tell but I expect he'll grow from this.

結局のところ、ザイオン自身が自分を痛めつけつつ二度と繰り返さないよう全力を尽くすはずだ。彼にはそれだけの能力もメンタリティも備わってるよ。

Ultimately in my mind there’s no way that Zion is kicking himself and ensuring he’s doing everything he can to not have this happen again. He’s got the ability and the mentality